-- Entered venue Gardeners Arms (Thu, 18 Oct 2007, 09:27:10) UK Shared Venue University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: Mike Daw, Are you using the encryption key for this meeting? University of Manchester - Mike Daw: no encryption key Ken Miller - University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: ok University of Manchester - Mike Daw: does everyone who's using insors know to use roberts.agsc.man.ac.uk? University of Manchester - Mike Daw: i feel quite lonely in here... Andy Turner: Hi this is Andy in Leeds University of Manchester - Mike Daw: hi andy Andy Turner: I don't think anyone can hear me. Andy Turner: Hi Mike Andy Turner: I can hear you guys Andy Turner: No Andy Turner: I can't hear Mike University of Manchester - Mike Daw: i don't see you in the audio tool - are you using a bridge? University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: Mike D, We cannot seem to connect into the meeting properly. Is there any issue with Roberts>#># University of Manchester - Mike Daw: there shouldn't be an issue with roberts, but there is with virgo Andy Turner: Hi Andy, Richard, do you have audio out? University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: I can connect to the test room ok Andy Turner: Yes I heard you CASA: just turning it on now Lancater University - Centre for e-Science, Bowland node: hi hallo from Lancaster, we do not have any sound or vision, Lancater University - Centre for e-Science, Bowland node: Ties University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: We are getting info on video feeds but nothing coming through University of Manchester - Mike Daw: there's no encryption, by the way University of Manchester - Mike Daw: let me try reconnecting University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: None turned on. Bridged through roberts University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: Just getting a waiting for video. Are we alone with this or are others having the same problem? Andy Turner: Has reconnecting sorted your Audio Mike? Andy Turner: Yes I can hear you Mike University of Manchester - Mike Daw: i think there's a problem roberts bridge CASA: we're on unicast University of Manchester - Mike Daw: essex - can you try and use multicast? University of Manchester - Mike Daw: ben - does knight work? CASA: andy turner, can you hear us University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: I will try Andy Turner: I don't know say "something" University of Manchester - Ben Green: Knight should be working, but then so should Roberts bridged... Andy Turner: I might have heard a very quite Richard University of Manchester - Mike Daw: ok, essex and everyone - try using knight.agsc.man.ac.uk if roberts isn't working... Andy Turner: Yes I can hear you University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: Multicast does not seem to work either University of Manchester - Ben Green: OK, I didn't get any video/audio with Roberts, but it seems OK with Knight Andy Turner: I had to turn your volume up Andy Turner: No one can hear me I don't think University of Manchester - Mike Daw: essex - try using knight, please! Andy Turner: I can hear CASA Andy Turner: You need to turn their volume up Andy Turner: No Andy Turner: It might be my microphone as it does not seem to register any bars University of Manchester - Mike Daw: sounds like it andy Andy Turner: Maybe there is another mute setting on my computer Andy Turner: ??? CASA: We think our microphone isn't picking anything up. Our gain is very low. CASA: ok apologies we are having a few audio problems.. we have now lost all audio Andy Turner: I could hear them before CASA: we will work on it... Andy Turner: I can't see Ken Andy Turner: Hello everyone, sorry my microphone is not working... Andy Turner: Ok I'll do me best University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: Andy - Are you using INSORS? Andy Turner: Ben Andy Turner: Hello CASA: no, we're using ag3 Andy Turner: I can see you University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: I will change the codec to 261 Andy Turner: Oxford I can see Andy Turner: Yes I can see Ken University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: Have changed the codec to 261 rather than 264 CASA: Just for info we cant see ken... Andy Turner: I just lost all audio University of Manchester - Mike Daw: we're just trying to sort out the presentation Andy Turner: ratmedia.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience. Andy Turner: Got audio back University of Essex - Economic and Social Data Service, ESDS node: www.esds.ac.uk/e-INF.ppt University of Manchester - Ben Green: The IGPix URL for Essex would be: http://roberts.agsc.man.ac.uk/igpix/uoeesds/igpix.html if they were transmitting Andy Turner: I'm using Access Grid Client 3.0.2 Build 1 Andy Turner: lost audio again.... Andy Turner: got audio back. Andy Turner: MIMAS CASA: Quick q - has our video frozen? Just checking its running as it seems fixed this end Andy Turner: Yes CASA: ok going to hacve University of Manchester - Mike Daw: we have lost you totally CASA: ok will restart CASA: apologies.. Andy Turner: Leeds is federated University of Manchester - Mike Daw: CASA - we can see you again now Andy Turner: ratmedia.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience Andy Turner: Lost audio Andy Turner: Got audio back Andy Turner: No MoSeS still has a year to run Andy Turner: We are doing it Andy Turner: Sorry we are delayed. We were due to have a meeting about workflows etc last month. It is now planned for next month. Andy Turner: Yes Andy Turner: We are doing work with the BHPS University of Manchester - Mike Daw: Leeds - we have lost you CASA: to be honest - GeoVue hasent but is using web based data services CASA: sorry is using CASA: so not using the grid Andy Turner: You'll not get the Nobel Prise just yet then! CASA: bugger! Andy Turner: a) Beyond20/20TM Beyond20/20TM will provide exploratory data analysis on the web and will also allow the extraction of selected subsets of data to the user's PC in SPSS or SAS format, or as a comma-delimited file for reading into Excel or any other package. Extracts can be based on a selection of variables and/or cases. The extract can be written to files in SPSS or SAS with the labelling preserved or, for users who do not have ready access to a standard software package, exported to the Beyond20/20TM Professional Browser on their PC. The Professional Browser can be downloaded free of charge from the same web-site. We expect Beyond20/20TM to be of great value in opening up the SARs to casual users or those with no access to standard packages. The Professional Browser supports exploratory PC-based data analysis including frequencies, recodes, tabulations, charts produced from tables, selection of population and display of metadata. It also has a mapping facility using boundary data held as MapInfo files. Andy Turner: http://www.ccsr.ac.uk/sars/publications/newsletters/16/sarsnews16.htm Andy Turner: Sorry Andy Turner: I should have just given the URL Andy Turner: OK Rob Andy Turner: I'll make my notes available Andy Turner: I agree Andy Turner: More people have used 1991 census data, mbut more ARE using 2001 CASA: I have to go to another meeting so my apologies, Richard is going to take over from CASA.. look forward to any available notes. Andy Turner: OK Andy, see you later :-) University of Manchester - Mike Daw: thanks Andy Andy Turner: I think the control should be on the research outputs not the research inputs. Andy Turner: Rights management rules OK Andy Turner: Who cares if a researcher can identify an individual if they can't do anything with the information? University of Manchester - Mike Daw: sorry Andy - I'm taking notes too. Who says women can multi-task! Katy Andy Turner: Thanks Ken Andy Turner: Thanks Terry Andy Turner: Sounds good to me. I'd like Bill/OeSS to get involved. Andy Turner: Yes, I'd want to just focus on what we need for MoSeS right now. Andy Turner: Thank you everyone. Thanks Mike. Thanks Katy :-) Andy Turner: Bye University of Manchester - Mike Daw: bye